Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Traitor of the Week

I'm starting a new weekly post entitled "Traitor of the Week", in which YOU get to put in your two cents about which very special Benedict Arnold we should nominate for the "Hall of Shame". Feel free to fire away!

16 comments:

Emily said...

Obviously, Arlen Spector.

ET said...

This week....Arlen Specter. Specter has never been the darling of the Republican party. A big "D" should have been next to his name a long time ago, It doesn't surprise me that he has changed party lines now, as he was facing an up hill battle for his Republican Senate seat in 2010. This move is all about selfish Arlin Specter and holding on to his job.

Ron Russell said...

Obviously, BHO this week and every week as long as he is in office. Spector was a Republican in name only so I just can't picture him as a traitor. Better to have your enemy in front of you, rather than in your rear.

undertaker said...

Napolitano at least belongs in the Hall of Shame for her DHS memo which neatly classified all Catholics (anti-abortion) and veterans as potential right wing terrorists.

Pelosi also deserves membership in that Hall of Shame for many counts of "felonious stupidity".

undertaker said...

I just picked up my crystal ball, which, as I said two days ago, was in the shop for repairs. I thought it had been damaged by my attempts to look five years into the future and check the list of remaining American Freedoms. I thought it was damaged because I kept getting the message, “No freedoms found”. When I picked it up today, the technician told me it was functioning perfectly. Hmmmmm.

undertaker said...

I don't know if these idiots should go in this week's list of traitors or next week's. But, here they are:
Sens. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Jack Reed (D-RI) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) today joined Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and victims and family members of the Virginia Tech tragedy, to introduce legislation to close the nation's "gun show loophole."

Grace said...

I believe it's Obama - I was very offended when he turned against all those who attended tea parties. I think it was horrible the way he was mocking them.

Mad Mom said...

Yes, Grace, I saw that as well. BO's condescension regarding the tea parties was palpable. Disgusting.

Majd Udeen said...

Condoleeza Rice - at least if you're going to okay torture or whatever creative name u come up with then own up to it and take responsibility.

Mad Mom said...

Majd,

On this I seriously beg to differ with you. If you consider a bug in a room to be "torture", then you must have lived in some sort of protected bubble during your childhood. None of these interrogation measures is any worse than what most kids endured in the normal course of growing up until the advent of 24/7 chaperoning and scheduling of kids' activities.

Majd Udeen said...

MM - I grew up in a place you have likely only seen on TV or in a National Geographic magazine. The actions shall be interpreted by those of reason or in a receipt of rather than by those who deliver.

Mad Mom said...

Sorry, I disagree. Interrogation entails a spectrum of methodology. Risk vs Benefit fits interrogation just like every other facet of life. If thousands of innocent lives are at stake, then the risk to benefit ratio moves the bar on the spectrum further towards more enhanced interrogation measures, none of which the CA used I deem to be unreasonable. If, however, just my feelings are at stake, then the risk benefit ratio changes, and enhanced interrogation measures would be unwarranted.

undertaker said...

The acid test is simple. If your children were kidnapped and threatened with death, would you endorse torture to get them back safely? If not, you do not qualify to be a parent.

mr.independent said...

Very interesting, one guy endorses torture in the scenario of their children being kidnapped and the same guy then endorses doing nothing to control how guns are sold at gun shows.

I seem to remember that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold purchased their weapons using the very loopholes now in question.

You say that people who would not ratify the use of torture "do not qualify to be a parent" and yet if some kid or nutcase walks into a school and shots it up is OK.

I find this hypocritical.
Since 9/11 over 100,000 people have died in gun related killings. How many have died from terrorist?

Then Mad Mom equates torture to nothing more than how children play or something to that effect. At least that's how I'm interpreting it

"None of these interrogation measures is any worse than what most kids endured in the normal course of growing up until the advent of 24/7 chaperoning and scheduling of kids' activities."

Well I grew up in the late 60's and 70's and I don't remember me and my friends playing "water boarding" or "lets strip this guy down and keep him awake for 3 days with AC on high".
I mean we did a lot of dumb stuff and some times we did get into fights, as kids do. Attempting to drown someone would have been seen as assault in my town and would have been seriously frowned on by my parents.

You have got to be kidding, your joking, right?

undertaker said...

Independent; Law-abiding citizens will rightfully kill to protect their families. If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. If someone breaks into my house with a gun, they are not going to be the only person armed. Perhaps you need to put a sign in your yard that says, "This is a gun-free zone". I guarantee you, that if a parent's child were kidnapped and threatened with death, that parent would do anything in their power to save their child. In my case, that would include my own brand of interrogation, which incidentally, would include removing teeth one at a time with a pair of pliers without using pain killers.

undertaker said...

Gun control can have a high price.

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm#chart